How come there isn't a list of definitive traits for kintypes?

[Tides_of_Wonders]

So...I am still very lost and confused as to what exactly my kintypes are. I know, I know..."Do your own research" but like...there are barely any "real resources" besides tumblr. How come there isn't a list of certain traits that can give a definitive answer on what my certain kintypes are?

I know I should do some introspection, and I have done some of it. I feel like I am definitely merkin, as well as plantkin, angelkin, and probably spacekin..

The reason I feel like these are kintypes are for the following:

Merkin: Had an obsession with mermaids as a child, have a heavy interest in swimming, Feel water is my home somehow.. Very Eco-Friendly.

Plantkin: Interest in sunbathing, dislike talking verbally, Have an interest in grass type pokemon, Feeling a new connection to the Earth, Caring Nature to others

Angelkin: Have a deep interest in having a platonic partner, Deeply Emphatic nature, A connection to Space

Spacekin: Feeling a deep connection to space, Interest in astronomy, Interest in constellations, my interest in the unknown, Interest in Space aesthetics,

What I know about myself is that I feel deeply inhuman, despite being a caring person towards other humans. I feel a lot of species dysphoria, and I think its partly because of my neurodivergence, and my spirit just...not being human..

I have read the articles on how to figure out your kintype, and the difference between Otherkin and Otherhearted and I think I am very much kin to certain things.

Could you guys please help me out on the "knowing" part of my kintypes? Because while I do feel nonhuman in many ways, I do want to understand myself more.

 

[Asherah]

The reason there are no lists of definitive traits for each kintype is because no two creatures within the same species are alike, nor are two kin of the same 'type. Writing lists or articles like that could be extremely damaging, as each and every one of us has a unique and subjective experience with our 'types. One angel otherkin may have a drastically different experience than another- one may feel a strong connection with Christianity, and the kingdom of Heaven, whereas another may feel spite and hatred for the very same concepts. If you take a look at literature from 'kin spaces in the 90's, there are many, many articles written by all sorts of different types of elves. Many people identified as Elenari elves, but identified as different elven cultures and subspecies beneath that ovearching label. Being 'kin isn't about finding a rigid box to force ourselves into, or trying to peg down the "right" traits. The entire concept of identifying as an otherly creature is very subjective. We all have our own unique definitions of what makes us our species.

Figuring out your 'type is about figuring out who you really are inside, not about what box you fit into. If you feel you are an angel, research the different choirs of angels in Catholic mythology. "Plantkin" really shouldn't be an overarching label necessarily; if you feel you are a plant, start researching different kinds of plants that you feel you may be. What in particular draws you to space? What traits within yourself make you feel as though you're a celestial being?

Maybe try to reverse your perspective; your approach may be what's hindering you. Good luck.

 

[Finna Alsvartr]

No hate to any 'kin on tumblr but tumblr can be a terrible resource full of trolls so I would be extremely careful.

@Asherah is right, every 'kin's experience is different. Take me vs. @Naia for example. We are both wolves and technically of the same species (though she is a specific subspecies). We had very different awakenings, I'm sure. We're very different people but might be grouped as generally having the same kintype.

 

[Lepus alleni]

It can be a tough journey, and you might find the answers long after first realizing your feelings of being nonhuman. I never felt human, but finding exactly what I was was a much longer and tedious process, and I'd actually come across the answer when I'd already stopped looking and even convinced myself my feelings on this were just me projecting my different feelings on something else.

 

[Tides_of_Wonders]

The reason there are no lists of definitive traits for each kintype is because no two creatures within the same species are alike, nor are two kin of the same 'type. Writing lists or articles like that could be extremely damaging, as each and every one of us has a unique and subjective experience with our 'types. One angel otherkin may have a drastically different experience than another- one may feel a strong connection with Christianity, and the kingdom of Heaven, whereas another may feel spite and hatred for the very same concepts. If you take a look at literature from 'kin spaces in the 90's, there are many, many articles written by all sorts of different types of elves. Many people identified as Elenari elves, but identified as different elven cultures and subspecies beneath that ovearching label. Being 'kin isn't about finding a rigid box to force ourselves into, or trying to peg down the "right" traits. The entire concept of identifying as an otherly creature is very subjective. We all have our own unique definitions of what makes us our species.

Figuring out your 'type is about figuring out who you really are inside, not about what box you fit into. If you feel you are an angel, research the different choirs of angels in Catholic mythology. "Plantkin" really shouldn't be an overarching label necessarily; if you feel you are a plant, start researching different kinds of plants that you feel you may be. What in particular draws you to space? What traits within yourself make you feel as though you're a celestial being?

Maybe try to reverse your perspective; your approach may be what's hindering you. Good luck.

Ohhhh...Okay. Well, thank you.

So..I have to look within me to figure out what kintype I am. Okay. Thank you.

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No hate to any 'kin on tumblr but tumblr can be a terrible resource full of trolls so I would be extremely careful.

@Asherah is right, every 'kin's experience is different. Take me vs. @Naia for example. We are both wolves and technically of the same species (though she is a specific subspecies). We had very different awakenings, I'm sure. We're very different people but might be grouped as generally having the same kintype.

I know its a crappy resource, but it feels like that and amino are the only resources that feel...like resources? I have tried looking at Otherkin Wiki/wikias, but I barely got anything...besides stuff about angelkin and a long list of Elfkin stuff..

Its nice to know that people with similar/same kintypes can have vastly different experiences.

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It can be a tough journey, and you might find the answers long after first realizing your feelings of being nonhuman. I never felt human, but finding exactly what I was was a much longer and tedious process, and I'd actually come across the answer when I'd already stopped looking and even convinced myself my feelings on this were just me projecting my different feelings on something else.

Ohhh. Okay. I'll keep that in mind.

 

[2-D]

Try finding older otherkin forums for resources.

 

[Tides_of_Wonders]

Try finding older otherkin forums for resources.

Okay. Could you give me some ideas on what to really google? I have tried Otherkin wikias, tumblr, and Amino...

 

[Lighter]

Okay. Could you give me some ideas on what to really google? I have tried Otherkin wikias, tumblr, and Amino...

Here's a list of possible resources:

Category:Websites - AnOtherWiki

The Otherkin community likely would not exist as we know it today without the internet. These are the websites, past and present, which have made it possible.

anotherwiki.org

Category:Blogs - AnOtherWiki

Blogs have, in recent years, become a very important means of communication in the otherkin community. From Livejournal to Dreamwidth to Tumblr and other personal blogs, much discussion of what it means to be otherkin has taken place in these spaces.

anotherwiki.org

Category:Mailing Lists - AnOtherWiki

Mailing lists have long been one of the Otherkin community's most important means of communication. These are the lists that have kept us talking.

anotherwiki.org

Category:Social Groups - AnOtherWiki

There are many otherkin groups, from individual Houses and Packs to full on organizations and businesses. There are also other social groups of varying degrees of formality. This is where you can find them all.

anotherwiki.org

Category:Chats - AnOtherWiki

This category is a bit of a misnomer. Yes, chats are covered, but not just IRC and other traditional chatrooms. Everything that deals with real-time communication between Otherkin over the internet belongs here. From MUDs to virtual worlds.

anotherwiki.org

Just avoid Therian Guide at all costs:

Security Notice - Therian-Guide

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www.kinmunity.com

Use the Wayback Machine to find content of websites that are no longer available:

Internet Archive: Digital Library of Free & Borrowable Books, Movies, Music & Wayback Machine

 

[Tides_of_Wonders]

Here's a list of possible resources:

Category:Websites - AnOtherWiki

The Otherkin community likely would not exist as we know it today without the internet. These are the websites, past and present, which have made it possible.

anotherwiki.org

Category:Blogs - AnOtherWiki

Blogs have, in recent years, become a very important means of communication in the otherkin community. From Livejournal to Dreamwidth to Tumblr and other personal blogs, much discussion of what it means to be otherkin has taken place in these spaces.

anotherwiki.org

Category:Mailing Lists - AnOtherWiki

Mailing lists have long been one of the Otherkin community's most important means of communication. These are the lists that have kept us talking.

anotherwiki.org

Category:Social Groups - AnOtherWiki

There are many otherkin groups, from individual Houses and Packs to full on organizations and businesses. There are also other social groups of varying degrees of formality. This is where you can find them all.

anotherwiki.org

Category:Chats - AnOtherWiki

This category is a bit of a misnomer. Yes, chats are covered, but not just IRC and other traditional chatrooms. Everything that deals with real-time communication between Otherkin over the internet belongs here. From MUDs to virtual worlds.

anotherwiki.org

Just avoid Therian Guide at all costs:

Security Notice - Therian-Guide

DISCONTINUE USE OF THERIAN-GUIDE – DO NOT VISIT! Original Post re: Therian-Guide Allegation (archive), (image), (image archive) Recent allegations made against The Therian Guide have caused the safety of the site to be called into question. Particularly, at this time, I believe the site to be...

www.kinmunity.com

Use the Wayback Machine to find content of websites that are no longer available:

Internet Archive: Digital Library of Free & Borrowable Books, Movies, Music & Wayback Machine

Thanks! I will take a looksy at those!

 

[shadowedwolf]

So...I am still very lost and confused as to what exactly my kintypes are. I know, I know..."Do your own research" but like...there are barely any "real resources" besides tumblr. How come there isn't a list of certain traits that can give a definitive answer on what my certain kintypes are?

I know I should do some introspection, and I have done some of it. I feel like I am definitely merkin, as well as plantkin, angelkin, and probably spacekin..

The reason I feel like these are kintypes are for the following:

Merkin: Had an obsession with mermaids as a child, have a heavy interest in swimming, Feel water is my home somehow.. Very Eco-Friendly.

Plantkin: Interest in sunbathing, dislike talking verbally, Have an interest in grass type pokemon, Feeling a new connection to the Earth, Caring Nature to others

Angelkin: Have a deep interest in having a platonic partner, Deeply Emphatic nature, A connection to Space

Spacekin: Feeling a deep connection to space, Interest in astronomy, Interest in constellations, my interest in the unknown, Interest in Space aesthetics,

What I know about myself is that I feel deeply inhuman, despite being a caring person towards other humans. I feel a lot of species dysphoria, and I think its partly because of my neurodivergence, and my spirit just...not being human..

I have read the articles on how to figure out your kintype, and the difference between Otherkin and Otherhearted and I think I am very much kin to certain things.

Could you guys please help me out on the "knowing" part of my kintypes? Because while I do feel nonhuman in many ways, I do want to understand myself more.

Wow i am merkin and i felt just like you did and i am questioning my type of mermaid type like rather i am a river mermaid or tropical but anyhow it is very normal to feel this way i mean i am questioning another one of my kin types a vampire

 

[Tides_of_Wonders]

Wow i am merkin and i felt just like you did and i am questioning my type of mermaid type like rather i am a river mermaid or tropical but anyhow it is very normal to feel this way i mean i am questioning another one of my kin types a vampire

I am starting to think that maybe I should stop trying to find my kintype and just live as I am. I feel as though there isn’t enough definitive proof for me to really “know” if I am any of these kintypes or not. I just know that I am otherkin...somehow. Because, being human just..isn’t me. I have tried being more accepting of my body and my inner self, and while I’m definitely aware that I have a human body, my soul doesn’t seem to feel human at all. Maybe its just my chakras getting out of balance, or maybe I need to journal my feelings more...but I just..feel stuck and unsure of what I really am inside, soul-wise.

 

[shadowedwolf]

I am starting to think that maybe I should stop trying to find my kintype and just live as I am. I feel as though there isn’t enough definitive proof for me to really “know” if I am any of these kintypes or not. I just know that I am otherkin...somehow. Because, being human just..isn’t me. I have tried being more accepting of my body and my inner self, and while I’m definitely aware that I have a human body, my soul doesn’t seem to feel human at all. Maybe its just my chakras getting out of balance, or maybe I need to journal my feelings more...but I just..feel stuck and unsure of what I really am inside, soul-wise.

Okay i think that right now you are at a point and time where you dont know your true identity but that is fine but you will know what you are soon tho ^^

 

[Tides_of_Wonders]

Okay i think that right now you are at a point and time where you dont know your true identity but that is fine but you will know what you are soon tho ^^

I agree. Could you give me an idea on what I could do? I have tried paying attention to my dreams and journalling. My dreams are in first person and they barely seem coherent. My journalling of my behaviors doesn't seem to really give me much. I can meditate, but not so much that I can reach altered states of consciousness yet. I can't visualize (I have aphantasia and can't see anything I imagine, even though I do have an imagination..).

 

[Lighter]

I agree. Could you give me an idea on what I could do? I have tried paying attention to my dreams and journalling. My dreams are in first person and they barely seem coherent. My journalling of my behaviors doesn't seem to really give me much. I can meditate, but not so much that I can reach altered states of consciousness yet. I can't visualize (I have aphantasia and can't see anything I imagine, even though I do have an imagination..).

But you can imagine sounds, textures, tastes and smells? Do they appear in meditation?

 

[Tides_of_Wonders]

But you can imagine sounds, textures, tastes and smells? Do they appear in meditation?

No, not for me, anyway. My meditations are usually full of silence even though the guide says "Theres a howling wind in the air, listen to the wind's howl!" I can't imagine/hear anything. My aphantasia means I really am behind the 8 ball in terms of imagining other senses.. As much as I can imagine things...its really not that immersive as it could be.

 

[shadowedwolf]

I agree. Could you give me an idea on what I could do? I have tried paying attention to my dreams and journalling. My dreams are in first person and they barely seem coherent. My journalling of my behaviors doesn't seem to really give me much. I can meditate, but not so much that I can reach altered states of consciousness yet. I can't visualize (I have aphantasia and can't see anything I imagine, even though I do have an imagination..).

Well maybe study more of different kin types and there traits and you can see which ones you identify with you can have as many theriotypes as you like i mean i have 2 and questioning another one but i think you are def having therian dysphoria and it is normal im having it rn because one of my other theriotypes might be a vampire lol it can take weeks or even months but i would work on meditation tho it is great for you mental health and IF you do practice is i recommend the app Sanvello they have great meditations! ^^

 

[Tides_of_Wonders]

Well maybe study more of different kin types and there traits and you can see which ones you identify with you can have as many theriotypes as you like i mean i have 2 and questioning another one but i think you are def having therian dysphoria and it is normal im having it rn because one of my other theriotypes might be a vampire lol it can take weeks or even months but i would work on meditation tho it is great for you mental health and IF you do practice is i recommend the app Sanvello they have great meditations! ^^

Okay. I will practice meditation and study the kintypes. Could you point me to a website that has most of the theriotypes and their traits? Because I need some help.

 

[shadowedwolf]

Okay. I will practice meditation and study the kintypes. Could you point me to a website that has most of the theriotypes and their traits? Because I need some help.

"Various kintypes include but are not limited to elves, demons, fae, dragons, angels, and many others. Someone may explain their experiences in various ways including through reincarnation, walk-in events, brain wiring, an unconscious coping mechanism, and many more." and you can research alot of these kin types on Otherkin.

 

[Tides_of_Wonders]

"Various kintypes include but are not limited to elves, demons, fae, dragons, angels, and many others. Someone may explain their experiences in various ways including through reincarnation, walk-in events, brain wiring, an unconscious coping mechanism, and many more." and you can research alot of these kin types on Otherkin.

Okay, thank you. I will take a look.