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Religious delusions...?

Discussion in 'Religion & Spirituality' started by erens, Sep 8, 2016.

  1. erens

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    Before anything, I want to make it clear I'm not calling religion itself a delusion. If you believe in something, who am I to say your spirituality is a delusion?
    That being said, I have a lot of trauma associated with Christianity and, though I'm more leaning toward agnostic witchy beliefs, I still find myself in the mindset of a Christian from time to time, especially when it comes to topics that caused actual trauma.
    Does anyone else find themselves having religious delusions where they're convinced of something that's part of a belief they don't actually abide by? IE I don't believe in any aspect of Christianity but I'm constantly vigilant about the rapture and I know I'm not going to be raptured so I prepare for post-rapture apocalyptic scenarios.
    I just want to know if I'm alone on this or if others here experience the same things?
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    I'm not sure if this counts, but I have a religious conflict between my previous life and this one. Ušumgal were created by the primordial goddess Tiamat of the Akkadian creation story. In this life I was raised Christan, in a sort of Mormon offshoot. I still haven't settled on how I want to reconcile the two, or if I want to ditch Christianity entirely.
    My previous life and this one don't have the same issue. The closest we came to worship that I recall was a sort of Great Spirit type thing, or worshipping nature. Words are sacred, but that was more a commonly held belief, like having souls.
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    I'm also kind of paranoid about the Norse Ragnarok, or the Christian Apocalypse, whichever happens first, but it's not a pressing worry.
     
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    Ahah this is actually why I'm pantheistic
    There were too many solid "This feels really real" for too many conflicting religious/spiritual beliefs for me to deny their potential legitimacy. Specifically with things where they made sense with my otherkin beliefs but then bits and pieces fell apart on the specifics (due to misunderstandings and human corruption of the original texts, in my beliefs) and so the thing that makes the most sense is to just smash em all together (in a critical fashion) and there we go!
     
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    I like that idea!
     
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    At some point I'll probably write up a blog post detailing how I feel that everything works together...might actually go and do that now lol
     
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    I have some of the same problems, but thanks to my kin's memories, I have a better understanding of things. my kin is a demon, and i'm a Christian. hilariously ironic if you ask me.
     
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    It took me a very long time to shake off Mormonism. I wouldn't want to offend any Christians and this is not a blast at Christians directly, (I have a great many Christian friends,) but for those of you who may not know, Mormonism is an extremely closed circle of Christianity with highly structured beliefs and no wiggle room. What is, is, in their perspectives. From the time children are born, they are immersed in the circle and taught at least two days out of every week that they need to abide by the Mormon rules or else they will, for lack of a better phrasing, never get to see their families ever again because they will never get eternal life. Family is very important to them--in fact more important than anything else, so when one family member leaves the fold there's intense panic.

    In my personal life, my parents are very Mormon. They raised me just fine, and I actually appreciated my life as a Mormon for a good 16 or so years. I was kind of happy. Not completely, but kind of. When I hit self-discovery stage and pulled out of the closed circle, a lot of ugly things happened. I was chased out of my parents' house twice. I lost contact with multiple friends. I was constantly hounded by men from the church pounding on my door weekly begging me to come back to church and repent so that I could have eternal life with my family and be saved from the "Second Coming," which is their most popular name for the apocalypse. When my own father discovered I'd moved to the Left Hand Path, he called me evil and horribly screwed up.

    And as I said, it took me a very long time to shake it all off. I felt abused by the church, and used. I felt like I'd been a tool for their growing numbers--a blind follower duped into believing in some salvation that may or may not actually exist. I read stories from ex-Mormons and realized... we were all practically trauma-survivors who'd been awakened.

    Again, not wanting to step on any toes here, but personally I view dogmatic religion as very dangerous and damaging to not only the psyche, but to families, and probably a lot of society. It's impossible to force everybody on the entire planet to accept a single religion. Although I know a lot of Right Hand Path principles are healthy and genuine, the church I left did not use them for personal growth, and it left a very bad residue on my life. They used their strict guidelines and gospel to scare followers into obeying, "lest they be burned at the last days." And I kid you not... one of their principles that must be followed to is pay tithing to the church or else you will be burned alive and sent to hell when Christ comes. And... that's a lot of trauma to shake.
     
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    My entire religious faith is a 2-person delusion, I understand completely.
     
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    Yes, OMG. Thank you so much for voicing this. It's been a big thing for me lately, and a major source of distress.

    I wasn't raised Christian, but I was raised in a very southern white baptist culture. I didn't realize it had impacted me until a handful of months ago. There are a lot of beliefs I have that aren't even mine. As in, I don't actually believe them...but on some core, emotional level, I still abide by them.

    Most of those beliefs are actually at direct odds with my spirituality. Like that the physical body is bad; that I'm drenched in sin; that my life and who I am is immoral and I'm going to Hell. It keeps me up sometimes, it causes extreme emotional distress, panic attacks, and other crap.

    But...I believe the physical realm is sacred and there's no inherent divide between the sacred and the profane. I don't believe in sin. And I don't believe being what I am is immoral at all. AND I routinely do spirit work that deals with Hell and am formally tied there, anyway, so it shouldn't matter.

    It's an awful kind of cognitive dissonance to live with. I'm hopeful it can be undone, but it'd probably take epic amounts of work.
     
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    @Little Lu that is the best example of bible thumpers ever, sorry you had to go through that, as a demon, and a junior deacon of my church, I understand how hard it can be to deal with them. I could tell you where they are wrong and why by what they posted, but I won't, personally, I pity bible thumpers, for certain reasons, and I agree, @StormyAngel to be who we are, is not enough to say we are going to hell, if you think about it, jesus was born a human, yet he was god, and therefore, he would be otherkin, just like anyone on this site. so to recap, sorry for your experience, that should not have happened, and we as otherkin, are not going to hell because of who we are, or what we believe.
     
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    @Dark Lord Thank you, I appreciate it! I love to remind people of the concept of avatars, including Jesus, as a way of showing the belief in nonhuman spirits living in human bodies isn't new. To be clear, I don't struggle with going to Hell in relation to being otherkin. I'm LGBT+, and that's the usual reason my brain likes to torment me with. I've only had a tiny handful of people telling me I'm going to Hell for being otherkin, versus living and growing up in a community and culture where that's said about LGBT+ people all the time.
     
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    well, for one, the reason why people say things like that, is because god made adam and eve, and so you have to be in a man and woman relationship, now, I have looked throughout the bible, and the only place it talks about this that I found is in Sodom and Gomorrah, which what happened there, can be defined as lust/greed, which was in the hearts of the villagers, which is seen as unholy, or against god, so even there, I do not think it talks against LGBT in any way, but the behavior of those men. that's just my opinion on the matter, and another thing is, as Christians, we are not supposed to judge others, that is for god, and god alone.
     
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    Thank you. I appreciate your understanding. :greenheart: It's definitely a healing process that has taken many years. Let's see, I officially left the church around... my 20th birthday I do believe. So... that was about five years ago. Almost six. Unfortunately due to my victimization of the Mormon church, I now have a very bad stigma attached to Christianity as a whole, and tend to deem myself anti-Christian because of it. I realize it's not other Christians' faults for what happened, and it's not Christianity's fault either, but the fact that it has damaged my view so much has proven to me that it is definitely not a religion for everyone. I do respect Christ and respect the wholesome values that Christianity teaches... I just wish they were implemented more often, and that scare tactics were let go of.
     
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    @Dark Lord I agree. Unfortunately for me, I'm really good at putting myself in other's shoes. So while I realize there isn't much Biblical standing at all to being told I'm going to Hell for being LGBT+, I can also follow people's logic who DO believe that. I can understand where they're coming from. I disagree with it vehemently, but I understand it. And I can understand the fear that's wrapped up in it.

    The problem is, that creates the perfect little gateway in my brain. If I can understand it...there's some kind of logic to it (even if it's twisted)...thus, maybe they're right and I'm wrong and queue the whole downward spiral.
     
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    I agree, scare tactics were first used in the dark ages, and I feel there should be no place in it now. if you want to talk more, pm me so we can keep this thread clear for others, i'd love to talk about this more.

    I agree, i'm the same way, but I find when I add my views and reasoning into the mix, I can figure out, why they are in the wrong, or why they are right.
     
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    I was raised Christian, as so many are these days, and I must say that coming to realize the Abrahamic God doesn't like you is a weird feeling. It kind of messed me up too, thinking that I was a sinner for doing what felt natural to me. Coming to have a relationship with other gods instead of Him was suck a relief - I finally felt like I belonged somewhere. And then I figured out what my main kintype was and gee wilikers did things start making sense.