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Mars

Do you think people could ever live on Mars?   33 members have voted

  1. 1. Do you think people could ever live on Mars?

    • Yes
      15
    • No
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    • Maybe later in time
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So I'm guessing some of you have heard but there is water on Mars! What's all of your opinions/reactions about it? I think its pretty cool even if I'm not that into Space stuff.

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Astronomy nerd coming through!

 

Just to sum it all up, every-time they send an expedition, a section will be added to this large base. This certain machine is going to turn the soil and air into oxygen and rocket fuel for a return trip. I don't know for sure but I believe that they might be able to pump oxygen into the atmosphere. However, Mars' atmosphere is nearly gone (hence why the water basically disappeared).

But until we can have the air breathable on Mars, we can only only live on Mars with suits and bases.

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Humans are one step closer to finding Reaper technology and advancing them by hundreds of years! Then, the First Contact War, and I'll be able to meet my kin!!

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Humans are one step closer to finding Reaper technology and advancing them by hundreds of years! Then, the First Contact War, and I'll be able to meet my kin!!

What is Reaper technology?

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What is Reaper technology?

Basically, Reapers are giant creatures who come 'round every 50,000 years to wipe out organic life who take advantage of the tech they left behind. If it looks alien, DON'T TOUCH IT.

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Yes, I do believe humans can survive on Mars, but to quote the great Harry Seldon "It's possible, just not practical." They would live in fabricated shelters and have to bring all of their oxygen and most of their water with them from Earth, not to mention food and other essentials. Despite what popular science fiction may wish to tell us, we aren't going to be terraforming Mars anytime soon. Once an atmosphere is gone from a planet, it's nearly impossible to restore it. Water would either freeze or evaporate into space, as would any oxygen or carbon dioxide we'd supposedly pump into what little atmosphere is left. There's also the issue of not being able to bring along the necessary equipment to build a sizable enough base to allow for hydroponics, recycling stations, living quarters, exercise equipment, food storage... and any number of other things. There's also the issue of resupplying. With current technology, it takes about eight months to make the one-way trip from Earth to Mars, and it's extremely expensive. They're not going to be able to constantly send more and more supplies, and definitely not in a timely manner. Furthermore, we have no way of getting people off Mars. They'd be stranded forever, or at least until technology has advanced sufficiently to retrieve them, by which time they're sure to be dead. Then, there's also the nasty planet-wide sand storms to contend with. It's just a mess.

 

If you're thinking about the expedition they mentioned on the news, the one where they were taking volunteers from the general public and wanted to turn the whole thing into a blasted reality show, I wouldn't get my hopes up if I were you. Most scientists give those poor fools a maximum of sixty-some-odd days of survival once they hit Martian soil. It's a doomed mission, with little or no return for the investment. Better to try to set up a base on the Moon. We know we can land there, it's close enough for resupply in a matter of days rather than months, and we can communicate in virtually real-time. Also, the Moon is tidally locked, meaning only one side of the satellite faces Earth at all times. One could put a huge radio telescope on the "dark" side of the Moon and have the best images of deep space anyone could dream of.

 

Will we get to Mars one day? Probably, but not anytime soon.

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I watched this documentary once on "life on Mars" and they say there is already life on Mars but they have to live under ground. They have proof, aliens captured walking on the surface and ancient ruins. They think they were like us but war caused the atmosphere to become unstable.

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I think it's entirely possible in the future that humans could colonize Mars, but it's impractical. Unless we were able to terraform the planet and bring about a breathable atmosphere and liquid water, I don't think it would be sustainable to have a permanent Mars colony. The costs would far outweigh anything we'd gain from that.

 

Sure, in a far off future where the Earth has gone bad and mankind needs to find a new home, maybe we'll be pushed there, but in that scenario, Mars is already a dead planet. I don't know that I believe that there's already life there. I think it would be known without a doubt already if there was. It's a desolate, inhospitable place that's fun to fantasize about going to, but not really feasible where we're at right now. That's not to say we'll never go to Mars, but the limits of our technology and our biological needs are holding us here for now.

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I've voted yes. Just because

a) what exactly is a "later time" than "ever" ? = ) Sure it won't be tomorrow, but I think at some point in "ever" we'll make that happen for sure.

b) I think to say something is impossible just based on ones current knowledge is quite arrogant as it says "What I know know is the end of the line, there is noting left I could learn" (If I had told you 100 years ago that we'd be chatting now, using something called internet that connects people on different continents you would have said it's impossible. What's different between us now and the humans back then?)

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I voted "yes" in the poll. I do feel that humanity will go and colonize Mars.

 

It may not be immediately, but it will happen!

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Im an old school Trekkie as well as a bit of a science tech fan. As the tech stands currently? Yes, we can land on Mars, Yes humans can survive there for a short-to-moderate period (assuming they survive the trip - there's a LOT of cosmic radiation between Earth and Mars to deal with) but the tech is not 'applicably present' for the return trip back to earth - No means of launching vehicles into orbit, breaking orbit and heading back to earth. Technically though, if humanity chose to 100% apply itself - sure, we could pull it off. Problem right now is *incentive* - what reason do the nations of the world have to go there and get back? Resource wise there's not a lot that is 'evident' - if we found a mineral that was readily harvestable, or if this planet was about to be wrecked by a meteorite then we'd probably be launching tomorrow.

 

In the grand scheme of things, Mars can be thought of as humanity's second step to the cosmos, and the first planet in our solar system that we have a 'currently realistic' chance of colonizing - the other being Europa I would say with its apparently abundant water. If we can develop tech to crack water for fusion-driven craft, then Europa becomes a lot more appealing.

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I think that at this point in time, we could go there, but there's no coming back. We could certainly set up human suitable habitats, but making the entire planet suitable for human habitation is unlikely to be possible. Mars doesn't have a strong enough magnetic field to hold an atmosphere, solar wind will simply rip away any kind of atmosphere that is added. Anyone on the surface of Mars will also be exposed to huge amounts of solar radiation for this reason. Surviving there will still be a push. We will need all of our own oxygen, and any remaining water would be far below ground. We will have to take our own oxygen, and at least some of our own water, if not all of it. It's certainly possible to visit Mars for a short amount of time with current technology, but anyone who goes now is certainly not coming back. Plus, it's going to be a very long trip.

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Of course.

 

On 10/8/2015 at 8:09 PM, BirdMonster said:

What is Reaper technology?

Mass Effect ref yo.

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On 15/10/2015 at 1:22 PM, TheSolitaryGray said:

Yes, I do believe humans can survive on Mars, but to quote the great Harry Seldon "It's possible, just not practical." They would live in fabricated shelters and have to bring all of their oxygen and most of their water with them from Earth, not to mention food and other essentials. Despite what popular science fiction may wish to tell us, we aren't going to be terraforming Mars anytime soon. Once an atmosphere is gone from a planet, it's nearly impossible to restore it. Water would either freeze or evaporate into space, as would any oxygen or carbon dioxide we'd supposedly pump into what little atmosphere is left. There's also the issue of not being able to bring along the necessary equipment to build a sizable enough base to allow for hydroponics, recycling stations, living quarters, exercise equipment, food storage... and any number of other things. There's also the issue of resupplying. With current technology, it takes about eight months to make the one-way trip from Earth to Mars, and it's extremely expensive. They're not going to be able to constantly send more and more supplies, and definitely not in a timely manner. Furthermore, we have no way of getting people off Mars. They'd be stranded forever, or at least until technology has advanced sufficiently to retrieve them, by which time they're sure to be dead. Then, there's also the nasty planet-wide sand storms to contend with. It's just a mess.

This sounds like a realistic appraisal of one of the least practical methods of establishing (and maintaining) a branch civilisation in a new area, and if history has taught me anything, it's that this trick can only work in very special circumstances.

Fortunately, there is at least one other method of establishing branch/daughter civilisations, and it seems to involve making sure that the new community is self sufficient so that it doesn't rely on the parent civilisation for survival, and from what I've read on the subject, it's all but guaranteed to seed a new civilisation on Mars, (provided that people bother to do their homework of course, which, let's face it, isn't guaranteed).

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